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	<title>Comments on: Please don&#8217;t shoot the Bugzilla devs</title>
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	<description>Random Ramblings of a Sysadmin</description>
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		<title>By: افكار و احلام &#187; Reporting Bugs</title>
		<link>http://www.justdave.net/dave/2008/08/29/please-dont-shoot-the-bugzilla-devs/comment-page-1/#comment-41111</link>
		<dc:creator>افكار و احلام &#187; Reporting Bugs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 07:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] bug-reporting mode, finding three bugs to report while testing a fix for one other bug. The recent Bugzilla upgrade had a few rough edges, and for whatever reason I seemed to find a number of them first. In addition [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] bug-reporting mode, finding three bugs to report while testing a fix for one other bug. The recent Bugzilla upgrade had a few rough edges, and for whatever reason I seemed to find a number of them first. In addition [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Luis</title>
		<link>http://www.justdave.net/dave/2008/08/29/please-dont-shoot-the-bugzilla-devs/comment-page-1/#comment-40062</link>
		<dc:creator>Luis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 16:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing I might suggest: making sure that everyone who complains publicly is guilted into filing a bug about their complaint, so that the thing can be discussed. Been very irritating to see people posting greasemonkey scripts to modify the UI without also linking to bugs where the complaints can either be dealt with or refuted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing I might suggest: making sure that everyone who complains publicly is guilted into filing a bug about their complaint, so that the thing can be discussed. Been very irritating to see people posting greasemonkey scripts to modify the UI without also linking to bugs where the complaints can either be dealt with or refuted.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Dolske</title>
		<link>http://www.justdave.net/dave/2008/08/29/please-dont-shoot-the-bugzilla-devs/comment-page-1/#comment-39999</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Dolske</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 00:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, in fairness the backend changes to BMO have been positive, as far as I can recall.

I think the current grumbling is a combination of few things:

* Changing the UI of a heavily used tool is always contentious. Sometimes people are set in their particular ways, sometimes the UI is &quot;improved&quot; for the worse, sometimes less-common use cases are not understood, sometimes it&#039;s forgotten if something had been done on purpose or was cruft, difference of opinions, etc.

* OMGCHANGE!

* It wasn&#039;t clear from that announcement that this was a big UI change, and not just a boring backend upgrade.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, in fairness the backend changes to BMO have been positive, as far as I can recall.</p>
<p>I think the current grumbling is a combination of few things:</p>
<p>* Changing the UI of a heavily used tool is always contentious. Sometimes people are set in their particular ways, sometimes the UI is &#8220;improved&#8221; for the worse, sometimes less-common use cases are not understood, sometimes it&#8217;s forgotten if something had been done on purpose or was cruft, difference of opinions, etc.</p>
<p>* OMGCHANGE!</p>
<p>* It wasn&#8217;t clear from that announcement that this was a big UI change, and not just a boring backend upgrade.</p>
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		<title>By: alanjstr</title>
		<link>http://www.justdave.net/dave/2008/08/29/please-dont-shoot-the-bugzilla-devs/comment-page-1/#comment-39998</link>
		<dc:creator>alanjstr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 00:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there a repository where you have all of the usage cases?  Do you allow people to upload there so that you can consider things for the future?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there a repository where you have all of the usage cases?  Do you allow people to upload there so that you can consider things for the future?</p>
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		<title>By: RyanVM</title>
		<link>http://www.justdave.net/dave/2008/08/29/please-dont-shoot-the-bugzilla-devs/comment-page-1/#comment-39986</link>
		<dc:creator>RyanVM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:57:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dunno, I personally like the changes. It makes it much harder to accidentally modify the bug when CCing, which was one of my biggest issues with the old style. Good job!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dunno, I personally like the changes. It makes it much harder to accidentally modify the bug when CCing, which was one of my biggest issues with the old style. Good job!</p>
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